Table of Contents

Our Principals:
Our Creed:
Venturing Crew 369:
Our Web Page:
Calendar of Events:
Garage Sale
Open House
The Ohio State Fair
Crew Finances
Up-an-Coming Crew Expenses
Up-an-Coming Member Expenses
A project for our web page
Hey, I had fun at camp too:-)
On-line Elections
Crew Activities & Trips
Simple key IP management
Paramount Kings Island
"Talk" in Shell Script
Lundregan Joins Executive Committee
Summer Camp
The Adventure Logo!
Summer Camp!
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(C) Mon Aug 2 08:46:19 EDT 1999 Venturing Crew 369

Calendar of Events:

8/11/99 369 Computer Display at The Ohio State Fair
(Lausche Building)
8/14/99 Trip to Kings Island
8/31/99 Open Waiting List for First Nighter
9/4/99 Wyandot Lake
9/6/99 First Nighter Letters are mailed out
9/7/99 First Nighter Rehersal
9/13/99 First Nighter RSVP
9/14/99 First Nighter
9/21/99 Second Nighter & Registration
10/1-2/99 Book-Making Sleep Over
10/2/99 Garage Sale
10/26/99 Pizza Party
11/2/99 Election Reporting
12/17/99 Silver Beaver Applications are due
12/21/99 Christmas Party
12/24/99 National Young American Applications due
12/28/99 Leave for Australia
2/5/00 Pot-Luck-Court-of-Honor
2/5/00 Sleepover
2/6/00 Scout Sunday
2/26/00 Maple Sugar Festival
3/4/00 Maple Sugar Festival
5/13-14/00 Flower Planing at Muirfield
5/20-21/00 Flower Planting at Muirfield
6/9/00 Sleepover
6/10/00 Garage Sale
7/2-8/00 Summer Camp
7/4/00 No Meeting
10/31/00 Pizza Party
12/15/00 Silver Beaver Apps Due
12/19/00 Christmas Party
12/26/00 No Meeting
12/28/00 Leave for New Zealand

Garage Sale

James D. Corder
Boy Scouts of America, Venturing Crew 369 will be having their second annual Garage Sale Saturday October 2nd 8:00am to 3:00pm. Please bring your stuff to donate to the Church on Friday October 1st between 7:00pm & 11:00

Open House

James D. Corder
Tuesday September 14th 7:30p.m. Boy Scouts of America, Venturing Crew 369 will be having their Open House to interview potential members. 369 has room for 25 new students in their UNIX for Programmers Class. Membership is open to young men and women between 14 [and in high school] and 20 years of age. Cost is $25.00(1) a year. Interested members should send E-Mail to to request space for them and their parents.

The Ohio State Fair

James D. Corder
On Wednesday August 11, Crew 369 will be giving a UNIX System Administration demonstration at The Ohio State Fair, in the Lausche building 8:00am to 8:00pm. 369 has created a 4-RISC-CPU 128Mb Ram server. 369 has effectively put the power of a Sun 690 into a 3'x2'x6" box.
Our Money As Of 6/8/1999
Fund Needed Estimated On-Hand On-Hand
The Adventure $900.00 - $900.00
Floor Fund
Electrical Fund $2,500.00 - $2,500.00
Flag Fund $1,000.00 $0.00 $0.00
Room Fund $3,800.00 $0.00 $0.00
General Fund
The Adventure
The Adventure
Total On-Hand $11,700.00 Cash $1,232.49
Adventure $900.00
Bank $5,000.00

Up-an-Coming Crew Expenses

12/01/99 Crew Charter $30.00
12/01/99 Crew Insurance $175.00
12/31/99 Registration $335.00
Monthly The Adventure $75.00

Up-an-Coming Member Expenses

09/01/99 Registration $25.00
09/28/99 Book $25.00
06/01/00 Summer Camp $175.00

Our Principals

1) Honor before all else. 
2) The difference between a winner and a loser is that the winner tried one more time. 
3) K.I.S.M.I.F. 
4) Y.C.D.B.S.O.Y.A. 

Our Web Page:

Our Creed

Exploring: Enthusiasm, Energy, & Excellence 

Venturing Crew 369

Venturing Crew 369 was chartered on December 31, 1994 to the Reformation Luthern Church. 

Venturing Crew 369 specializes in UNIX for Programmers while emphasizing a deep theme of Engineering Computer Information &\040Science 

Membership in Venturing Crew 369 is open to young men and women between the ages of 14 [and in high school] and not yet 20.  Annual Membership fees are $25.00. 

A project for our web page

Jon Schlegel
I want to organize our newsletter `The Adventure' so that we can browse through it by subject rather than just by date. I have set up an account on my computer for anyone (part of the Crew) who wants to help me out. Just e-mail me, and I'll give you the username/password.

Here's what we are doing: We are taking all past articles that have technical merit (i.e. not those about a camping trip) and organizing them into logical categories. The purpose to this, is to create an archives of our own work, in a format that is useful to someone trying to find information. As it stands in the magazine format, you must browse through all the newsletters in the approximate range of when you think the article appeared and look for it. If you don't know if its been written on, you have to go through the entire history of the newsletter.

When you log in, there are a number of files in the home directory that set up guidelines, and a to-do list.

On-line Elections

Jack Trout
The World Wide Web also know as the internet has been home to teens and Computer professionals for years. Now people Take the Internet as "Cyber-Space". A virtual world were everyone is equal or so they delude themselves. Everything from the real world is moving to it.

Venturing into Cyber-Space you can find churches giving on-line services or you can find how to make bomb materials and almost everything even Politics. Now the politics want a bigger place. It has started with being able to contribute your political party via a website. The new step is coming, On-line Elections. Cyber-Citizens would be able to vote for their candidate via an on-line form. This method raises questions of privacy of security in my mind.

To be able to Make sure registered voters could vote on-line would require people to create an on-line registering system a central store of information. computers would have to be tracked. The voting computers would come under attack from people against the government. personally I think that the government already tracks people way too much and uses to much control over peoples lives and views. by enabling an on-line Citizenship people will be tracked further. Maybe they will use it to start tracking what sites you goto or whom you communicate. The internet is a tool not an environment to replace life and human interaction.

Venturing Crew 369 at Summer Camp
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Hey, I had fun at camp too:-)

Ho-Sheng Hsiao
Venturing Crew 369 at Summer Camp
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When summer camp showed up on our Crew calendar, I expected something else. I remember trips before Junior High School. We sang songs, hiked around the woods, slept in camps, and learned some minor outdoors skills -- skills now after a year of college, I've forgotten. Most of all, I remembered being herded from one activity to another. Its time for learning firing skills; free time, go have fun; we're going to hike over to that hill today...

As a Venturer, though, I didn't really have to do anything at camp. Really. Just have fun. Relax. We traveled to the Chief Logan Reservation, a Boy Scouts camp, and if all else failed, I could read the books I brought along.

But first started as a vague notion of personal escape for me, turned into personal discovery. The books never had a chance -- there were so many things I could do.

We, the venture youths -- Bill, Neil, and myself -- brought along our Ranger guidebook. The idea is to complete as many of the requirements at camp as possible. This was expected, but optional. It all came down to how much I wanted that Ranger. It wasn't hard to want.

The afternoon we arrived at camp, I was surrounded by scouts of various ranks and class. From the scout-masters all the way down to the unranked scouts, I realized something. These ranks weren't just earned, they were also grown. It takes patience of years. What one ends up with isn't just a patch to sew on an uniform, or the recognition. I see staff members and adult leaders with self discipline, self-possession. These leaders know themselves enough to give something of themselves.

Would the struggle for Ranger take me there?

I know it does. Just fulfilling the Ranger elective for Archery, led Neil and Bill to end up running the Archery range. I went from knowing nothing about bows and arrows, to focusing down the point of an arrow and hitting (nearly) where I wanted it to go. It was exciting to see the arrows plunk into the target. But first things first. Until I started to focus on mastering the basics, my targets and my arrows won't meet. It was easy to overlook the fact that the basic techniques must come together first before I worry about hitting the arrow to the target.

Or take the Land Navigation core requirements as another example. Chief Logan's camp program provides two orienteering courses. One is a 1 mile; the other made by Army engineers was a 5 mile course with a way-point in the middle of the lake. So we, the youth, created a 2.5 mile course (to meet the requirements). While we were not able to see someone take it during our week there at camp, I know in the future we would come back and see the scouts take on the 2.5 mile course. Just like planting a seed, and seeing the giant out of the sapling. In constructing this course, we had to leave precise bearings so that others may follow.

I also took the COPE course along with Neil and a half-dozen of the Scouts. This requires teamwork. We started with warm-up games, and then the trust-building activity (falling while everyone keeps you inside a circle). The real challenge was to get the entire group together. Our first challenge, walking across a group of beams with not-quite random disabilities showed just how fractured we were. Too many open mouths, and not enough open ears, the Venturers did one thing, the older Scouts another, and the younger Scouts bounced along. To get through the challenge, we finally had to focus, focus, focus. The entire team coordinating with the rest. Pass the beams. Set them down. And I've also discovered in myself, to block off worrying about being blindfolded (my disability within the challenge -- the COPE instructor saw that I was bridging the beams too fast). Our second and our third challenge went through much better. We had a brief discussion, then everyone knew roughly what to do. And if some of our solutions didn't work out, we adapted. It was fun.

Three lessons I discussed. Bring together basic techniques so one can launch an arrow (or project). Leaving precise bearings for future Scouts (be a guiding light). Focusing the group the overcome adversity. Lessons we read about, but makes a world of a difference -- like the difference between reading about a rock hitting your head, and actually having one fall on you.

All of these assume you have an objective. On the archery range, it was the target. In the Land Navigation, we had a beginning and end point. On the COPE course, these were the challenges spelled out by the instructor. All of these activities work better (and are a lot more fun) with the objectives than without.

And camp (along with conversations with Mr. Corder) brought into the light the question, "what do you want to do in life?" Perhaps I had a vague answer. I learned how vague. It was this week at camp that exposed the questions for me to carve out the answers.

I hope to go to summer camp next year, and see you there too:-)

Crew Activities & Trips

Tess Yagecic South Florida District

I am Vice President of Administration in (co-ed) Venturing Crew 70. Ha, I don't know if I should add anything else.

I'm surfing the net and I came across your site, it looks really good, btw. Anyhow, I was curious if you guys did anything that really worked for you? We're just starting out, in fact, I think we're 4 months old, and we're looking for ideas for trips.

Well, I hope everything is working out for you all.

Jon Schlegel

I think one of the best things we do, is go on scout trips with our troop. It eases planning since the scouts already have most of it done, we don't have to reserve places ourselves, we only plan what is necessary for our crew to go along. For instance, we go to summer camp with the scouts, we go on weekend camping trips with the scouts, and despite the fact that we are a Unix SA Crew, we go on camping trips for the things that can't be taught in a classroom setting. Leadership, planning, relaxation, and voice lessons (actually we just sing stupid camp songs and make weird harmonic chords, but it's fun). We also go to `pick' on the little eleven to fifteen year olds. Basically we try to help them have a good time by letting them hang out with us, and sometimes us hanging out with them.

Other places we have gone include the Dayton (ohio) Air force museum, a canoe trip, and more (all with the scout troop).

As often as we can (we don't have a huge crew, so picking good dates for weekend camping trips are hard), we like to take a weekend camping trip. They're a blast because you are hanging out with your crew in a setting that isn't the standard computer lab, and people who might not be the greatest computer dudes, turn out to be great at cooking (sweet!), lighting fires, euchre (me), hatchet throwing, or anything else.

The point is not so much where or what you do, the point is spending time with the Crew in a setting that has little to do with the weekly purpose you originally joined Venturing for.

Venturing is about leadership, friendship, and learning. Firefighting, computing, or whatever else made you originally join the Crew is all just bonus.

You'll find that planning isn't that hard once you get out of the discussion phase and actually start calling sites, planning meals, transportation, and basically getting stuff down on paper.

Good luck, have fun!

Simple key IP management

Bill Schwanitz
Recently, I stumbled upon a neat security program called SunScreen SKIP. SKIP is an acronym of Simple Key IP Management software which is produced by Sun Microsystems.

Imagine a product that is capable of encrypting the traffic not only of your interface, but SKIP is capable of selectively pick who is encrypted and who is not encrypted. This does take configuration by the end-user on either side of the connection.

Currently, I have used SKIP with the DES 56 bit key as well as the 128 bit RSA key. I am also able to used up to a 2048 bit public/private key if I remember correctly.

What SKIP does is install a special driver for each interface. Once this is done, you unfortunately must reboot the system. I have not had a chance to see if I can use the module utilities to insert the module without rebooting the box. Upon rebooting, you log in as root, and begin making your access list. Let u say you want encrypted traffic from myself to the NFS server, assuming the NFS server has SKIP capabilities. Let us now say that I want to be able to talk on the network to the rest of the people on the network. This is rather easily done. I, at least for now am using the utility /opt/SUNWicg/bin/skiptool which is a GUI front-end for the utility skiphost.

SKIP is an excellent tool for securing transactions and not really loosing usability as well as any real noticeable performance drain on the machine (unless the machine is taking a considerable number of hits per second, in which case SKIP is useless anywise in my opinion). The best part about SKIP that I can see outside of the obvious security bonuses is that, if set up correctly, is invisible to the standard user. I am not aware of the ability to make a certain user have special access which other users do not get, however you can departmentalize the workstations.

For more information on SunScreen SKIP, visit the SKIP home page at:

Paramount Kings Island

James D. Corder

Boy Scouts of America, Venturing Crew 369 will be taking a field trip to Paramount Kings Island on Saturday August 14th. Cost is $17.50. All members should bring a sack lunch.

The discount coupons will go first come first serve.Crew members are welcomed to bring a guest.

Uniforms will not be worn on this event!

"Talk" in Shell Script

Tom Lowers
Recently at the Venture Crew meetings I have been working with a way to talk to other people (albeit in the same room), but do not like to have my messages set to y. to get around this, and to program in shellscript I wrote an 18 line program.

The program works by using the diff command and comparing a file of what the user knows (each user that runs my program automatically creates or touches a file in their home directory) with what has actually been typed by everyone (one file in the /tmp directory). Every time that someone types something it is appended to the file in the /tmp directory. After comparing the /tmp file to the file in the user's home directory the file in ${HOME} is replaced by the file in /tmp. Whenever new users join a message is displayed that so-and-so joined.

Exiting people are identified by a capital Q being the only thing that they said on that line. The one problem I have with it right now is that you have to say something or hit the enter key to see what people have said since your last update. Hopefully I can fix this easily.

Lundregan Joins Executive Committee

The Scouter Executive Board member and previous Exploring Chairman, Steve Lundregan has joined the Executive Committee of the Simon Kenton Council as the new Senior Vice President for Learning for Life. in this capacity he will oversee the In-School Scouting, Career Awareness and Exploring areas from the role as the lead volunteer.

Steve is Nationwide's Vice President of Business Strategy. Nationwide is the country's fifth largest property & casualty insurer. Steve's current responsibilities include developing and implementing business strategies and leading P & C merger and acquisition work.

Steve originally joined the Nationwide organization in 1981 as a financial analyst in Columbus, Ohio. In 1982 he became manager of analysis. In 1985 he was promoted to regional controls and services manager where he directed the "start-up" of commercial operation and client services center in Denver, Colorado. In 1989 he was appointed director of operations administration and assistant to the president, D. Richard McFerson. In January 1991 he moved to Director Agency Systems and was elected Associate Vice President Agency Services in September 1991. He was promoted to Vice President Agency Services in May of 1993. In 1997 When he returned to Columbus as associate vice president property casualty marketing.

He earned his bachelor of arts degree with a major in economics in 1977 and his masters in business administration in 1980 fro The Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio. Steve is a chartered life underwriter (CLU) and a Chartered property and casualty underwriter (CPCU).

Steve has been active in professional and community organizations throughout his career. He served on the Agency Manager Training Council (AMTC) for the Life Insurance Marketing Research Association (LIMRA) in 1992 and 1993. He is a former member of the Columbus Sales Executives Club and served on the Board of Directors for Junior Achievement of Central Ohio.

Originally born in Washington, DC, he resides in Dublin, Ohio with his wife Debbie and their two daughters (Jennifer and Kate) and their son (Scott).

Venturing Crew 369 at Summer Camp
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Summer Camp

James D. Corder
Venturing Crew 369 at Summer Camp
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This is my 26th year at summer camp with 369. In the past years, at the end I couldn't wait until the week was over. Then in June I couldn't wait until the week started once again. This year, I did not want to see the week end!

Though this is not the first year the Crew went, it is the first year that enough of the Crew went to form its own patrol. This is also the first year that the Chief Logan Reservation did not have to ban the use of water and/or ration it out. I understand that Council finally added another well.

We got a GREAT camp site! 369 tends to get the worse camp site because we are known not to complain and make the best of it. But WOW, this site was perfect. It is the farthest site away from everything. But, it is so far back in the woods that we had more than enough space to make the perfect camp.

We divided the site into three areas, Scouts, Crew, and Adults. [As it should be]. The Crew members were as green as can be. This was the first time camping for the majority of them. However, we were the first area to set up their site. Literally, all tents and flys went up in 15 minutes.

It was not knowledge or experience that allowed this monumental feet to take place but teamwork and leadership. There was no questions of who's tent was "theirs." No one argued about the work. No one cared about their gear verses the Patrol's gear. Most importantly everyone accepted the knowledge and experience of their elders and followed instructions.

I am extremely proud of Venturing Crew 369. They handled themselves well. At first the camp was not willing to support our program, we are a Crew. The members of 369 did not get angry. They did exactly what was expected of them. They came to their Advisor. Once we went around to the different areas and showed them our handbook for the Ranger Award, the Camp Staff was excited to help out.

In my opinion, as an Eagle Scout, the Ranger Requirements are more difficult than that of Eagle or Queen Scout. Most of the Camp Staff are Eagle Scouts and they too wanted to participate in many of our activities on the Ranger Trail.

The competency level of our Crew Members was so self evident that when the Archery Area Director was called away from Camp, due to a personal emergency, it was the members of 369 that were placed in charge of the range. Moreover, the youth of 369 began to help the young scouts on their merit badge work. 369 did not concern themselves with the extra work that would be placed on their shoulders. They knew that they would have to work twice as hard in their "spare" time to meet the expectations of their own advancement. But, they still met the challenge, and succeeded!

All of our Toads, this year, turn 14 and graduated from the program. Many of them will be offered membership in the Crew, once they earn their Eagle Scout Award. This gave us 3.5(2), ok we rounded it up to 4, slots for new Toads. Hence, we now have 4 new Plebes. Picking the new Plebes was an extremely difficult decision to make. The new batch of 11 year old are so remarkable it made our choice a painful one.

Though there are formal rules about being and becoming a Toade, they are not given to the young Scouts. They must "Use Their Resources" to figure them out. The first requirement is that they must ask, in uniform, to become a Toade. This shows a strong desire on their part.

There were six young lads that met all of the requirements. Unfortunately, we only had room for 4. Once the four were chosen, it was hard to see the little ones cry. This is one of the most painful moments in the Toad Program. A Scout is only allegeable up until they are 14. I have seen Scouts go all 3 years without a space opening up for them. This hurts.

Wednesday, at dinner, a young Scout who was eligible came to the Venturers and asked how he can become a Toade. Luckily for us he was one of the six that the Crew had chosen. We placed a pink Plebe Cord on his shoulder. I had never seen a smile that wide before. It in and of itself was reward enough.

That evening, when Aaron return to camp, all of the new Scouts flocked around him because of his new cord. They all wanted to know how he achieved his goal. The next morning we were inundated with requests. The Four(3) was chosen. I truly hope that these Plebes live up to our expectations of them becoming a Toade, fore I look forward to the up-an-coming years of working with them!



Uniform, Events, and Books not included.
There are six Eagle Scouts and no Rangers in our Crew. Therefore, we can have six Toads. However, we can only have up to 10% of the Troop. There are 35 members, so we can have 3.5 Toads.
See page 3 of this "Adventure" for a photo of the new Plebes.

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